The Mystery of PS 125

Erin

Looking at Google Maps, it is plain to see that PS 125 in Brownsville has been abandoned for quite some time. When did the oldest school in the neighborhood close, and why? This researcher started this blog assuming that these would be easy questions to answer. It turns out there is no clear answer to either one.

From its creation in 1900, PS 125 was ill-equipped to handle the influx of Jewish, mostly Russian and Polish, immigrants streaming over the newly opened Williamsburg Bridge from the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Four new schools opened in Brownsville between 1905 and 1912, yet this did little to alleviate overcrowding. According to a Brooklyn Daily Eagle article, PS 125 was renovated in 1917 to include 38 classrooms, 13 of which were "activities" rooms dedicated to classes in drama, workshop, science, cooking, drawing, and other special skills.


PS 125 in 1908, seven years after it opened

A booming population combined with the politics of racial segregation paralyzed progress at the school. PS 125 emerged as a predominantly Black school between 1933 and 1940, when Black children went from being one-third to two-thirds of the student population. From 1940 to 1950 the Black population in Brownsville doubled due to a flood of migrants, mostly from the South. In response, the heavy-handed City Planner of New York, Robert Moses, initiated construction of the Brownsville Housing Projects, which increased the population density of the area. To this day, Brownsville has the highest density of NYCHA-owned buildings in New York City.

Schools in Brownsville were so jam-packed that many students never had access to a full day of schooling. By the 1950s, PS 125 had an enrollment of 767 students (30% over capacity). Around this time, the Brooklyn Daily Eagle reported that the waitlists for schools in the area were so long that some parents stopped signing their kids up for school entirely. PS 125, like other overburdened schools, operated in shifts. This made life hectic for parents with more than one school-age child trying to coordinate childcare and meals.


Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 1950

While Black schools were utterly congested, the white schools in the borough were nowhere near capacity. According to Brownsville, Brooklyn: Blacks, Jews, and the Changing Face of the Ghetto, a "1955 government report found that almost all elementary schools in predominantly Black neighborhoods were full or exceeding capacity, while 80,000 seats were vacant in predominantly white schools. The school board refused to enroll Black students in schools located in white neighborhoods, choosing instead to move students amongst overcrowded schools."


Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 1950

The reality of racial segregation in Brooklyn appears most starkly in the New York City Planning Commission's Plan for New York City. It shows the "Utilization and Enrollment" at Brownsville schools from 1967-68. At PS 125, there were zero "White" students, 83 "Puerto Rican" students and 375 "Negro" students enrolled. Overall, students of color made up 97.6% of all students in the Ocean Hill-Brownsville district at that time.


New York City Planning Commission's Play for New York City (3) Brooklyn, 1969
PS 125's statistics are displayed in the second row from the top

Racial tensions began to heat up further in the 1960s, as Black parents lead protests for more community control over school policies and practices. By 1968, the school had likely started the decentralization pilot program with a cluster of other schools in the Ocean Hill-Brownsville school district, as mentioned in the New York Times. This new program was designed to give predominantly Black neighborhoods more control and influence over how their schools were run.

These are the last bits of evidence regarding PS 125 and its existence. This researcher has checked public databases and called people at the Department of Education, Department of Buildings, Brownsville Heritage House, Brownsville Community Board, a real estate company that works with the building's current owners, the President of the Brownsville Business Improvement District, and a friend who works at an architecture company, but have yet to find an official closing date for PS 125. (I'm thinking we should post a reward for such information, as it seems absolutely crazy that there is no known record of a public school's closing.) This researcher even took to Twitter to ask Brownsville born-and-raised artist Elaine Del Valle (@brownsvillebred) about the school, where her father worked as a janitor, but she wasn't sure. She thought maybe 1981, but didn't know the reason behind the closure.


"Brooklyn Tomorrow," 1964

Notice on the above map from 1964 that PS 125 is not even listed as an "existing" building where it would be located in the northwest corner of "Brownsville Housing." Perhaps it was already abandoned by this point, rendered structurally deficient, regardless of teachers' strikes or overcrowded classrooms. One can see that the residents of Brownsville had hopes of creating an "Educational Park" between Watkins Street and Rockaway Ave at Livonia Ave, surrounded by middle-income housing, though this dream never came to fruition.

Whatever the story of PS 125's closing, it remains a mystery! One thing is for sure, the journey to that non-answer provides an intriguing history of Brownsville's intense political past.

If you're interested in reading more about Brooklyn's schools and the fascinating stories behind them, check out these other Brooklynology blogs: The Mermen of Brownsville, Borough Park's P.S. 131, a trove of school historyBrooklyn Schools: A Look at Ephemera and More, We Don't Need No Education and stay tuned for our third blog this month on school history to be posted next week.

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This blog post reflects the opinions of the author and does not necessarily represent the views of Brooklyn Public Library.

 



Beverly

Hello! I went to PS 125in the 1st grade. I am 63 years old. My family stilllives in the community. I recently drove past the building and see that the school has been renovated. It's beautiful!!! Brings tears to my eyes! I'm looking forward to finally see children walking into this historical building!!!
Thu, Jul 19 2018 12:01 pm Permalink
Sala

In reply to by Beverly

Hello. I attended PS 125 from kindergarten (1957?) to 3rd grade. My younger sister is your age, she attended kindergarten there. We were both bused to PS 268 in Flatbush for our first and fourth grade years. I am trying to remember the names of some of the teachers, but....do you remember any? Thanks and take care.
Sun, Jul 11 2021 10:34 am Permalink
Donald

In reply to by Beverly

Attended PS125 from 1955-1957 for K-1-2. Really well maintained school, especially the center corridor. Lived in the Brownsville Houses. Just saw the new school on Google Maps. It is magnificent
Sat, Sep 25 2021 6:20 pm Permalink
Darrell B

I attended there in the 60's and have extremely fond memories of the teachers who worked there. I loved going to school there when I was a kid. Loved it!!!!
Sat, Oct 27 2018 4:17 pm Permalink
Steven Klein

In reply to by Darrell B

My name is Mr. Klein, and I believe you were in my 6th grade class in 1967/68. I hope my message finds you happy and well. I have a photo of the class, but I am unable to post it on this page. I’d be happy to email it to you.
Fri, Jul 12 2024 10:29 pm Permalink
C. A. Boyce

In 1960 the Open and Roaming program began. Students were allowed to attend schools outside of Brownsville. The beginning of integration of public schools, no school buses were provided. I traveled 1.5 hrs on public transportation and walked another 15 minutes to attend P.S. 139 in the Flatbush area. About 1964 school buses were provided for high school student to attend in various white communities based on which housing project you resided. I don't recall any high schools in the immediate Brownsville area.
Fri, Apr 19 2019 3:09 am Permalink
Lisa Lipper

Thomas Jefferson High School was nearby. I attended from ‘64 to ‘66. I taught 5th and 6th grades in P. S. 125 from ‘71-‘75 when I was no longer needed and “excessed” to a school in Flatbush.
Mon, May 27 2019 6:51 pm Permalink
Linda lucious

In reply to by Lisa Lipper

Yes I remember you well I was in me Dean's 5th grade class you wore min skirts lol me Klein was the dean Mr ward was the counselor Micheal watts Anthony Williams and others were in your 5th grade class 5 -1 I was in 5-2 I'm a nurse now me dean stayed and retired from ps284 yes I remember you well Mr Rubin was my 4th grade Ms abatti 2nd grade and Ms boaba was 3rd grade Mrs Dixon scared us saying she had a spanking machine in the boiler room within the lunch room lol
Sun, Sep 3 2023 8:51 pm Permalink
Lisa Lipper

In reply to by Linda lucious

Linda Lucious, (clever name, could it be real?) I enjoyed your memories very much! I don't recall 5-1 and 5-2; I think we went by room number. I remember 5-208 well. Mr. Chartoff is my friend though I'm in NJ and he's on LI. Sorry to say Mr. Rubin passed away not long after his wife did. I'd love to hear what your life was like after P.S. 125 and some more memories of it.
Mon, Nov 20 2023 6:38 pm Permalink
JANET MARIE DILLARD

I attended PS 125 from the 1st grade to the 4th grade and I have fond memories especially the 1st & 2nd grade, my Favorite Teacher was Miss Jennings, I remember the entire 1st grade class cried because we was going to another teacher. Fortunately we were able to have our Favorite Teacher for 2 straight years. I still live in Brooklyn and I am overwhelmed that the city is finally doing something with my first and favorite school. It was heartbreaking passing there and seeing it dilapidated and rundown.
Sun, Jul 21 2019 12:17 am Permalink
richard B

I attended 125 for the 5th and 6th grade, and then went on to David Marcus JHS 263 in the community and then the H.S. of Art and Design in Manhattan. My parents enrolled me in Catholic school for the 1st to 5th grades because of the overcrowding, and lack of any real learning as teachers had to teach overcrowded classes and students were only able to go half days or quarter days. Catholic schools stressed reading and writing along with rote and recitation learning. However, you view this type of learning when I transferred to 125 halfway through 5th grade I was reading and writing at a senior high school level. I was put in a class with students who could not read a 2nd-grade reader, an overcrowded class with some students sitting on stools or makeshift chairs in corners or a table in the rear of the room. Frustrated teachers unable to effectively teach and frustrated students who were not getting an education through no fault of their own. This continued on to the 6th grade as those students with reading and writing problems were just passed on to the next grade. I don't have very much positive to say about my experience at 125 except to say that there were a number of factors that lead to this miseducation of a generation of students. Rapid building of high rise housing projects that increased the population of the community without the infrastructure to support it. Redlining of communities, along with the support of banks and the real estate entities. Community representatives who caved into housing demands to allow Brownsville to have the highest concentration of housing projects in the country. The increasing poverty of the community, the frustration of teachers and students who had to deal with deplorable physical conditions and substandard books, equipment, and materials. Why the school closed was due to asbestos found in the deteriorating walls along with peeling lead paint, and plumbing and electrical problems. The building, of course, has good BONES but the cost to resolve those problems the community representatives to the city and state government were not prepared to fight on behalf of the children of Brownsville.
Sun, Jul 21 2019 3:11 am Permalink
C. Henley

I attended P.S. 125 in the 1970’s. Actually my Brother, Sister & I we’re in attendance until the end of the school year in 1975. The school did not open its doors again in the fall of that same year.
Tue, Jul 23 2019 4:50 am Permalink
Lisa Lipper

In reply to by C. Henley

C. Henley, I taught at P.S. 125 in room 5-208 until June 1975 when I was excessed. My colleagues did teach there for at least one more year until it closed. Please tell me more. Do you remember your teachers? How did you do after elementary school? Thanks!
Mon, Nov 20 2023 6:44 pm Permalink
Yvonne Smith

In reply to by Lisa Lipper

Hello, This is Yvonne, C. Henley's sister. I went to 125 up to first grade. I have memories of how big and beautiful that school building was. Every time I smell tomato soup, I think of the cafeteria at 125. I was told that the school closed down because of the bad behavior of the students. My older brother had a terrible time with bullying there. Anyway, we all were bussed to a school in Queens and are all doing really well now. We each live outside of NYC. I can’t remember my teachers there. It was so long ago. 1974-1975.
Tue, Jun 4 2024 3:31 am Permalink
John J

I went to P.S 125 from 1957 and was transferred from P.S 84 after the 1st grade! I saw the renovation P.S 125! Who owns the building?
Thu, Apr 23 2020 8:03 pm Permalink
Barbara Harris

Do you guys remember the school crossing guard that would beat all of the kids from Blake and Rockaway? That’s my mom and she still reps Brownsville.
Mon, Sep 21 2020 3:15 pm Permalink
Susan Crawford

Wow I went to this school I lived right behind this school and always wondered why they took a perfectly good school and closed it We was relocated to Queens PS 88 where we wasn’t particularly not welcomed. It sat there abandoned as a child I wondered by??
Tue, Oct 20 2020 4:35 am Permalink
LINDA L

I ATENDED P.S 125 FROM 1969 TO JUNE 1974 0R 75, MR KLEIN WAS THE DEAN, MS DIXON WAS THE LUNCH ROOM MATRON WHO SCARED CHILDREN WITH A FICTITIOUS SPANKING MACHINE IN THE BOILER ROOM, 1ST GRADE MS SAMACH, 2ND GRADE MS ABADDI, 3RD GRADE MS BOBA, 4TH GRADE MR RUBIN, 5TH GRADE MR DEAN , ALL NUMBER 2 CLASESS, WE HAD 1,2,3, THE GUIDANCE COUNSELER OFFICE FULL OF PUPPET TOYS LITTLE OASIS, I WAS NEVER SENT THERE, MS LIPMAN WAS A 5TH GRADE TEACHER LOOKED LIKE BARBIE THE DOLL, MR DEAN WENT ON TO P.S 284 UNTIL HE RETIRED WITH HIS SIGNATURE TAN SUIT JACKETS,WENT FROM A HEAD FULL OF SANDY BLOND HAIR TO A TRUMP WHITE COMB OVER, MY BRO WAS VALIDECTORIAN 6TH GRADE CIRC 1969. WWENT ON TO 263 MARCUS AND ART AND DESIGN, HE RECENTLY PASSED AGE 64. NAME HAROLD. I RMEMEBR THERE WAS TWO WAYS TO ENTER AUDITORIAM,BACK STAGE AND HAD HEAVY GREY DRAPES, TOP FLOOR,TRIPS OLE SKOOL SPICE HAM AND CHEESE, AND BONTON CHIPS AND CAN SODA IN FOIL,(SMILE). ABGIGAL VOMITED BEFORE WE GOT 2 BLOCKS FROM SCHOOL ON THE BUS, POOR LISA MOM WAS SO STRAPPED FOR CASH HAD TO REICEVE PAENUT BUTTER /JELLY SANDWICH FROM LUNCH ROOM TO TAKE ON TRIPS, NOTHING MORE EMBARRASSING IN THOSE DAYS, WHILE ALL OTHERS HAD STUFF MOM BOUGH NIGHT BEFORE FOR THE TRIP. GOOD OLE DAYS FOR SURE. IT' A DIALYSIS CENTER NOW.
Wed, Dec 2 2020 7:53 am Permalink
Steven Klein

In reply to by LINDA L

My name is Mr. Klein, and it was so nice to read that you remembered me and so many other teachers and staff at PS 125. I knew you brother Harold, and I’m so sorry for your loss. He was a wonderful, intelligent young man, and was in Ms. Fetner’s class in 1967/8. Harold was in 6-1 and I taught 6-2. When I was asked to leave the classroom in 1968, to help with school discipline, we began to name each class by the grade followed by the room number…so 6-1 might have been changed to 6-302. When you mentioned Ms. Dixon and the “spanking machine” it put a smile on my face. Thank you for the memories.
Fri, Jul 12 2024 11:00 pm Permalink
Donald

Wow I remember P.S. 125 when I first started in kindergarten Mrs Fox was my teacher , I remember a lot of the teachers and staff members and school aides, lol who didn't. Ms Dixon and Mr. Dean was there when I attended , some of my teachers I can remember was Ms Patrick , Mr. Moses , I remember the school lunch room was located in the basement of all places on the other side of the boiler room , I also remember going to school with Otis Wilson during the time I went there, who ever thought he would become a NFL football player to play with the Chicago Bears and win a Super bowl. The memories of the field trips , class photos , school plays etc I'll never forget it all going to P.S.125 and living in Brownsville those were the days funny how you look around a time changes but yes they made a Dialysis Center out of it now its a nice building you couldn't even tell it use to be a school , oh by the way Darrell B i seen your post lol I think I know who you are we went to school together during the same time frame.
Sun, Apr 25 2021 8:07 am Permalink
Harvey Monder

I attended P. S. 125 from 1945 to 1951, starting in Kindergarten and continuing on in P. S. 66 (Lew Wallace Jr. H, S,), then on to Thomas Jefferson. The classes were large, possibly 30 or 40 students. My only clear memory of my time at 125 is Mrs. Kerakety(?), the assistant princple ringing the a bell to let us know that lunch break was over and it was time to get back to class. What was memorable is that it was big brass bell with a wooden handle. She would stand in front of the school, usually wearing a dark purple polka-dotted dress, shaking the bell loud enough to hear a block away.
Fri, Jun 18 2021 5:31 pm Permalink
Munah Airitam

I went to P.S. 125 from 1948 to 1953. I remember my time there as positive and was not aware of any negatives. Maybe I was too young to notice! lol! I remember all my teachers names.
Thu, Sep 30 2021 10:37 pm Permalink
Miguel Pacheco

I lived at 120 Blake Ave from 1952 when I was born until 1960 When my parents moved to Puerto Rico. How can I verify if I went to PA 125? I have a notion that I did.
Mon, Jan 3 2022 5:14 pm Permalink
Hal Skinner

I grew up in the Brownsville projects, which opened the year I was born 1947. I attended PS 125 in 1958. I only attended the school for the 6th grade. Prior to that I had attended 2 other elementary schools in Brownsville. PS 150 and PS 84. It was not unusual to change schools, since more people were moving into Brownsville. The huge Van Dyke projects were erected. I was in a very small class at PS 125. Perhaps 7 students. I then attended JHS 263 (David Marcus, Junior High School). 2 blocks away from PS 125. I felt I received a good education at these schools. I had both French and Algebra at 263. Eventually, I went to high school in Manhattan, The New York School of Printing. The name of school was later changed to The New York School of Graphic Arts. I subsequently graduated from CUNY undergraduate and NYU Graduate School. I feel I received a great education from PS 125 and JHS 263 in Brownsville.
Mon, May 16 2022 2:24 pm Permalink
Steven Klein

My name is Steve Klein, and I’ve been referenced as Mr. Klein in several of these wonderful posts. I started teaching 6th grade at PS 125 in 1966, and in 1967 I was asked to leave the classroom to help run the school and work with students who were discipline problems. As a teacher, I used to visit the homes of many of my students, and I guess I earned some respect from the students and parents. I was always calm (still am) and never raised my voice. I remained at the school until it closed on June 30, 1976. I found an old article from May 25, 1976 that explained the school was being shut down because it was underutilized…but I was unable to copy and paste it to this post. I knew Otis Wilson, and everyone in the Wilson family. Ms. Wilson was awesome! All of the PS 125 students and teachers were transferred to PS 284, which was underutilized at the time. I loved my time at PS 125, and somewhere in my garage are the teacher rosters, class photos, and all of the graduation programs that I coordinated. At PS 284 I returned to the classroom, and instead of assembly programs, I made movies with my students that we showed on the big screen. They were silent with subtitles, and my students became movie stars for a day. I still have them. A big shout out to all of the wonderful teachers and students that I had the pleasure of working with. I would be happy to hear from any of you.
Fri, Jun 7 2024 10:56 pm Permalink
Diana Legree

In reply to by Steven Klein

I'm so excited to read this post. I have great memories from P.S. 125. I remember Ms.Franklin, Ms.Katz, Ms.Liss, Ms.Feely Mr.Dean Mr.Fox and many others. I've been trying to reach Ms. Stern who taught 1st grade. She treated very nice and I will always be grateful for her.
Sat, Jan 11 2025 2:13 pm Permalink
Donald

In reply to by Steven Klein

Hello, Mr. Klein I remember you , you knew My Mother who worked there as a school aide , her name was Madeline sadly she passed 1n 2021 @ 85 , she worked with a lot of the staff there like Ms., Smith , Mrs. Wilson , Mrs. Mandelbaum Mrs. Cook etc. It was sad to find out that Mr. Dean pass for he was one of my teachers an use to tutor me in math he sure taught me good cause he made me a math wiz , I remember my years of attending P.S.125 back in the 60's and Mrs. Fox was my Kindergarten teacher , wow so much memories that I had back then I eventually move on from New York and join the Military at 17 yrs old and now a retired 1ST Sergeant an a military combat Veteran from the Iraq War
Mon, Apr 7 2025 11:39 pm Permalink
Laura Valdes

My mother attended P.S. 125 her family settled in Brownsville when they arrived from Puerto Rico the little girl washing her hands in the photo looks like my mother. Is there a way to identify the girl in the picture? Is it noted in the archives who it is?
Fri, Oct 4 2024 1:10 pm Permalink
Jeff Legree

The only school that really attempted to educate the kids in our community. I still remember Mr. Duncan the principal and Ms. Khone my 1st grade teacher.
Sat, Jan 11 2025 10:55 pm Permalink

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